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lexxeee
Posted: November 01, 2009 11:17 pm
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I'm in the USA, and I work from my personal pc at home. I use a wireless phone/modem and have always loved it and it suits my seeds...until now.

My ISP, which si also a major wireless phone carrier, has monthly 5GB cap on badwidth usage.

It will no where nearly be enough for this job. If you work from home / own pc, can you tell me what you use for Internet Service Provider and if they have a max / cap on bandwidth?

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Posted: November 01, 2009 11:52 pm
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wink.gif Welcome to CGN Lexxeee, thanks for joining the conversation.

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Posted: November 04, 2009 03:50 pm
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Hi Lexxeee,
I will try to help you choose the right service. With your existing wireless service you are probably seeing service speed in the 350-480 KPS (kilo bytes per second) range unless you live real close to a fast and lightly used cell tower. This "speed" is about average for the new 3G data service levels. The wireless companies are placing caps on the volume (amount) of data or use of your service. At 5MB this cap should be OK if you are downloading music, light applications, or an occasional TV show, but clearly not enough for your needs. They are putting caps on the wireless service to prevent people from downloading movies on the network because they do not have enough network service equipment available to meet the demand.
With that background, what is the best service for your needs? In most parts of the US there are options of DSL or Cable. DSL of 1.5MPS should give you enhanced service (3 times faster than the 480 KPS service you are getting now) and 1.5 should be fine for you. Cost should be in the $30 per month range and if you want faster, most DSL providers offer 3MPS for $5 more per month. You may be able to go one more step up in speed for $5-10 more per month, but this option exists only if you live relatively close to the "central office-phone company center". DSL starts to fail with long wire runs to your home. I think DSL is an excellent option for you to investigate.
The other common option is cable, but it can be expensive unless you bundle it with TV and/or phone service. Cable internet can be $30 up and usually starts at 3MPS and can go all the way up to 50MPS (really fast for multiple users in the same house/same time).
Google on "DSL Internet" and "Cable Internet" and enter your area code and address with the different companies offering service and see what your price options are. 1.5MPS would work fine for camming, you would probably see a slight improvement with the higher cost 3.0MPS.
Good Luck and let us know what you decide on.
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  Posted: November 10, 2009 02:28 am
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thanks oakridgr

i appreciate the time you took to answer, but i am specifically asking about the cap the carrriers are putting on the data transfers (my video....others gaming, movies, etc...) use.

i will be changing my ISP, though my speed is awesome with my Verizon usb wireless modem, because of the cap on data transfer then now also bcuz have decided to work on a site that requires DSL (ADSL)

maybe i am missing something, i m surprised i find no mention of it by other independent cam girls in USA.
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Posted: November 10, 2009 03:03 am
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Maybe a wiki explanation of the meanings of each will help.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_cap

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_management

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Posted: November 10, 2009 04:49 pm
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Hi lexxeee,
Sorry I misunderstood your question, I was not sure what tech level your understanding was, so I tossed out some basic info.

When you talk about the potential for bandwidth usage cap you are opening a big debate that has been going on in the US Congress for the last 2 years. Again. at the risk of lecturing on basics, internet data can be considered like water or electricity, the more you use, the more you should pay. In the earlier days of internet connection, the technology did not easily (ie cheaply) exist to record how much data (ie water) was being used. I was on the team that designed the T1 Inverse Multiplexer and we tried to add usage metering, but ATT was not interested in paying the extra money for this feature. So what you are worried about is the next generation of the internet-pay for what you use - and this will impact heavy users (downloaders, gamers, and full time on-cam users). I have heard some models in Romania complain about their internet bills being so high, and it appears that they are getting charged usage surcharges.

If you are seeing a Verizone 5Gig cap, you are getting one of the worst, low cap levels they are testing. I suspect that models are not complaining because they are not getting the low 5 Gig cap level or have not yet been test marketing with a cap at all.

I found this article from a couple months ago:
"Time Warner's newest proposal sets the first tier at $15/month for a single GB of traffic, with a penalty of $2 for every gig over that, and a top tier that works out to $150/month for all you can use. TWC is testing the plan in one Texas market, plans to expand it to expand the trial to Austin and San Antonio, Texas; Rochester, N.Y.; and Greensboro, N.C.

Time Warner isn’t alone in its campaign to crack down on heavy net users. AT&T announced last November that it would test monthly bandwidth caps and overage fees. Comcast installed a 250-GB cap last August; Canada’s Rogers enforces a 60 GB limit; and New York-based DSL provider Frontier has a miserly 5-GB limit."

I spoke with the local Comcast district manager and he told me they are not actually capping anyone yet. The only "problem customers" they see are medical doctors putting in 50Meg service and downloading medical images to their homes, but they are not charging for excess usage.

I am not a network engineer, but doing some pencil scratching says:
A standard grade digital camera video image works well with T1 (1.5Mbps service). A 1.5 Mpbs service demand equals a .15 MBps torrent download equiv. towards CAP, so adequate (not HD or high motion) video, as a cam model would use, should use approx. 1 Gig of CAP for each 2 hours on line. So a 5 Gig Cap will let you work maybe 10 hours per month at your basic payment level for internet service before your CAP surcharges start. If you had Comcast you could work 500 hours per month and be very tired indeed.

I suspect a cam model working 30 hours per week is using less than 60 Gig per month and their ISP has not yet decided to charge them a "heavy user" surcharge. Even with the proposed surcharges, the new usage based monthly fees would be in the $80-90 range.

This entire pay as you use the internet debate is working it's way through all the governmental regulatory agencies worldwide. Perhaps Uncle Lewis will try to organize and unionize cam models so they can raise funds to pay lobbyists to fight the Time Warner, ATT, Verizon, Comcast lobbies?

Is this the kind of discussion you are looking for?

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Posted: November 10, 2009 05:33 pm
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Added thoughts on internet service;

Using a "Verizon USB wireless modem" indicates one is using Verizon's wireless phone service, which is really just a data plan using the cell phone network. This is a really expensive (like $60/month for 5 Gig capped service), pretty low performance way to go that is designed for mobile, driving around in your car type of computer connection service.

Changing to any one of the DSL or Cable providers will be half the price with 3-5 times the performance and for now-no usage caps for heavy users. Maybe in a year or two the ISP's will be putting in heavy usage surcharges, but a land line based internet connection is the way to go.

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Posted: November 10, 2009 06:39 pm
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My 2 cents, seems either they are running out of bandwith capacity or want to avoid overloading their respective systems.

Or it is just another way to make more money off of people. Just like the banks impose fees for using other atms, or other businesses looking to make an extra buck.

But then again, if a model makes enough to cover those extra charges then it doesnt matter. In my post previously there is a section describing exactly what Oakridge is speaking about.


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